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Old 11th Apr 2014, 15:18
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@ vilas

I don't disagree with you about AF447. My concern is that it appears some 'bus drivers seem to feel that they can't stall the jet, and then the lack of certain "protections" in the various reversion modes comes into play when things go south.

That is why I suggested better training both in the sim and in the real airplane. I know involves lottsa $$$, but sheesh.

In the early days of my experience as an IP in a full FBW jet, we first let the student get used to the side stick, and then we would go to the limits. We did not have a simulator for 3 years after the jet became operational! And you could not demo the gee limiter in a stupid sim.

Habsheim was a great example of poor planning, poor preparation, and poor judgement. Sorry to come down hard on a fellow pilot, but that's my feeling. Even our demo hops for the crowds allowed for some leeway, and the maneuvers were practiced over and over. A degree or two of AoA that the FCS allowed at max command was never a consideration.

Back to my peanut gallery......
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