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Old 29th Mar 2014, 22:50
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While the depth of the report may bore some less than enthusiastic airline pilots the discussion by the investigators on exactly how does a co-pilot take over physical control from the captain intent on pressing on regardless of risk, is worth close study. This subject is rarely covered in airline SOP.
The FO never made a hard statement about the approach until .2 seconds before the missed approach attempt. All the statements leading up to that point seemed like expressions of opinion which the captain over rode, in his opinion the approach would be recovered and landing assured.

Before taking over (and much earlier in the approach) the FO needed to say "GO-ROUND" and if the captain didn't listen then a harsher statement including the intent to take over should he not listen.

I don't think this is an example of teaching FOs to take-over from the PF during an approach, this is an example of using clear concise language to achieve an outcome. If you state an opinion the other guy will most likely follow his idea of the situation. If you just tell him its unsafe GO-ROUND he has no choice really other than to do such. As it stated in the report what the FO really meant to say early on was "we are unstable go-round", instead he made it sound like an opinion rather than fact, and, never used the phrase go-round.

Wrestling for control at low altitude when communication is unclear is even more dangerous.
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