I think pprune has moved on a long way in 10 years, this used to be a GP place, next person who wades in trying to tell everyone that you change the pitch on the sides to make it go back and forth because gyroscopic precession says so is going to be killed. (thank goodness)
Now we just need the ground exam syllabus to catch up.
CUE: Expert from DGAC: "I got yooou baaaaaaabe"
that song sounds particularly bad in Japanese Karaoke bars