Embarrassingly enough having flown a fair few of each I can't answer the question. However it might help inform the debate to explain that a conventional and short take off are fundamentally different.
In a conventional you slam with zero nozzle and then apply progressive back stick at about 120 kts. Eventually some aviation happens. In a short take off you slam with zero nozzle (or ten if you want to keep the efflux off the tail) and then at a pre determined speed (or when the wheels skip) you snatch in a pre determined amount of nozzle - weight dependent but about 50 - and maintain the attitude with a little forward stick if anything.