So as I see it, the Qf board's plan is going exactly to plan. Blackmail the workers and blackmail the government. Slash and burn employees and smash the QSA. They hate pilots and engineers and they'll be the first to go. Some 300 engineers as a starter to go, not including Avalon heavy, another few hundred engineers to add to that, so about 10% of the reduction from the engineers. Pilot numbers not mentioned yet