www . .. .I advocate protectionism of the UK GA Flight Training market within the boundaries of JAA member states. . .. .This makes no sense. Anyway, there are JAA states which can undercut the UK, do you want to stop Eastern countries joining JAA?. .. .It makes perfect sense as the EU is a trading block as is the NAFTA. Tarrifs and barriers exist between them on everything you can think of apart from PPL training. I am happy for Eastern bloc countries to join JAA and compete. Because I as a Brit JAA license holder have the right to go there and work for their successful school. A right I do not have in Florida. Spain and Italy with lower fuel taxes and better weather should be leaders in Flight training in JAA. Perhaps the Northern countries can compete with a better experience pool or infrastructure. Who knows? Let the free market decide. Many of my colleagues in Jerez had worked in the US teaching people. They were all kicked out after 2 years as their permits expired.... .. .The USA uses tax incentives on fuel and subsidy of GA to give its flight training a competitive advantage. . .. .You don't understand how the US works. They don't subsidise GA and don't look at GA flight training as something to compete with JAA on. In general the US doesn't give a damn about JAA, most people haven't even heard of it. Most Yanks don't even know we have airlines in Europe!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .Never said they do give a damn. They do subsidise GA with, for example, huge ex-mil airfields released to GA users at peppercorn rents. They also have lower taxation on all aspects of the business.. .. .GA in the US is a totally different kettle of fish to the UK. You should try it out.. .. .I understand that US federal taxes on avgas approximate to the cost of providing services to GA aircraft. I shall try to find a link.. .. .I may well try it out somtime thanks.. .. .Because America is bleeding it dry . .. .Bollox. The US is not bleeding GA dry, the UK goverment with it's taxation policies and the regulatory bodies are. The US provides an opportunity for wanabees to get some really good experience in a GA friendly country at a decent price. Why would you want to prevent a young impoverished kid from being able to log that?. .. .I want to stop that impoverished kid from denying himself a first job as a flying instructor in a country that will not throw him out as a foreigner after two years. The EU has higher taxes and higher public spending than the US. This is a democratic political decision. Just like I dislike economic migrants coming to this country to take advantage of the welfare state, so I dislike another country not in our polticial or economic union, undercutting our jobs. Steel industry anyone!? . .. .The only protectionism I can see here is that of established JAA airmen who will undoubtably have a more secure job if there are no wannabees coming up through the ranks because they cannot afford to train anymore.. .. .Hmm, with the schools full of students and hundreds and hundreds unemployed low time pilots in the UK alone I don't think there is a Masterplan to arrange a choke on the labour supply. I doubt the maximum £2000 saving on a US PPL will see the numbers entering the profession slump!. .. .All I hear is a US citizen trying to protect his lucrative supply of EU professiona pilot training. The NPPL will be as cheap as a US PPL for the pleasure flyer.. .. .Cheers, WWW. . . . <small>[ 28 March 2002, 15:25: Message edited by: Wee Weasley Welshman ]</small>