I defy anyone on either side of the debate to tell me that this thread has bought anything new to the party.
If I was a Mod here, I'd be deleting new MPA threads and insisting people stick to a central one. That way we would only be getting posts with a better percentage of new and/or relevant information.
Everything (of value) in this thread has been posted many, many times before.
This does not help the debate...it dilutes it. This is an important issue...it deserves better.