Now you see the true game. Does Clifford work for Qantas or does he work for Kohlberg, Kravis and Roberts(KKR)?Last time we looked he was a Senior Advisor to KKR. Why is Mr Meaney on the board? His background is with Texas Pacific Group(TPG) architects of the APA bid and have recently destroyed Swissair. They have been patience but the brand has been too strong for them to kill it. Remember what these people did in the United States, RJR Nabisco, Eastern airlines to name two. The "Assets went private and the Debt went public". Lobby Mr Abbott to hold his ground and not give in. These people need to be brought to account! We need to pull the chain and get rid of this vermin and get people in to grow the business.