Cheshire,. .. .i agree with the sentiments of all the other contributors and yes it does take alot to admit we are wrong at times but i suspect that is the reasons we are human beings.. .. .Flying Farmer sorry to hear things did not pan out for you last week but rest assured you are not the first to fall at the first hurdle the trick is getting over the thing . Good luck next time out.. .. .On a personal note whilst I may have sounded overly opininated in previous threads I still believe that the student fraternity do need protection on their investments and this may be only possible with intervention from our friends at gatwick but also using these forums to make future students aware of the risks entering the industry.. .. .ps so what is happening at that building formerley knownn as SFT <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="cool.gif" />