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Old 27th December 2013 | 09:50
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AlphaZuluRomeo
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Hi rudderrudderrat,
Originally Posted by rudderrudderrat
I think the B777 FBW system would satisfy CONF iture.
Thanks, I'm aware of the different philosphies when it come to protections/limits. I know that a number of pilots feel like they would rather have the ultimate control, and hence don't like the A because it's like "the damn thing is better than I'm" (sometimes).
But that's not the point, here: in an A320 as in a 777, command (stick/yoke) and elevator are disconnected, and their relative displacement not (always) proportionnal. That's any FBW with anything else than Direct Law. E.g. C* law.

Hi CONF iture,
Originally Posted by CONF iture
To prove anything is not the point, but cooperative elevators was obviously a necessary element to expect the better.
So now, the elevators were un-cooperative? Feels like the great return of the killer plane (and/or computer).
Now we're at rudderrudderrat'point. I dare say I fail to see how the aircraft should have saved the day, while not (hard) imposing hard limits to the crew...
With "cooperative" elevators as you put it, and stick full back (human reaction just before impacting the trees), stall is on the way = worse end-result.

Originally Posted by CONF iture
NTSB has probably a similar mission ... still, they did what the BEA failed to do.
How many years later?
Once again, I share the regret. The NTSB did? Yes. We're happy it did? Yes. We agree on that. I just feel it's not fair to write that the BEA "should have".
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