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Old 19th Dec 2013, 18:26
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Fairdealfrank
 
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It would be fascinating to be able to put cameras and dB meters outside a HACANist's house for a week. Currently, they only measure the a/c ...
Indeed it would! Do you mean down at Clapham, some 20 mi. from Heathrow? There would probably be very little background aircraft noise!


I lived 1977-9 in a (single-glazed) apartment in Kew Gardens. A passing Trident, 707, VC10 would render the TV inaudible for ten seconds; 1-11, Caravelle, Viscount twice that. Concorde for three quarters of a minute.

Folks today haven't a clue about real aircraft noise
Quite right! and a lovely place to live (as refected in house prices)!


So long as a two bed terrace house in Barnes costs a million quid, it's very hard to take the noise issues seriously. If it was that dreadful living under the flight path, house prices would reflect the lack of demand.


They don't and so there clearly isn't a serious problem
Yes, house prices under the flightpath do more to undermine the noise argument then anything else!


Why should anyone do that pallan? You make perfectly good sense
Yes you do pallan, but someone will have a go, it's the nature of the debate and not a problem.

Would take issue with you on just one issue: your comment on the constituencies around Heathrow.

One look at the constituency map around Heathrow says it all...
Marginal seats around Heathrow will not change hands because of airport policy. For the most part, there aren't enough rich and vocal objectors (who have no other concerns when voting) to change any results.

At the next election, marginal seats will change hands on issues such as the cost of living and the economy, and whether UKIP can take enough votes away from the incumbents to let in challengers, it’s as simple as that.

Of the seats around LHR, 1 is safe Libdem (Twickenham), 3 are safe Con (Maidenhead, Spelthorne and Windsor), 4 are safe Labour (Feltham and Heston, Hayes and Harlington, Slough and Southall)

Just 2 are marginal Con: Brentford and Isleworth (Con-Lab marginal), with many airport workers; and Richmond Park (Con-Libdem marginal), where LHR expansion is a non-issue because both Zac Goldsmith, the sitting MP, and his Libdem challenger will be anti-LHR expansion.


Since we have just spent £300 billion on Merchant Bankers (cockney rhyming slang), to bail out the incompetent - I really do think we have the money. The BofE could Q.E. £50 billion tomorrow - and it would do a hell of a lot more good to spend that money on 21st century infrastructure, than bailing out the criminals who brought the City to its knees.
Just one reason of many why there's no money for any "Churchillian salutes".

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