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Old 11th Dec 2013, 16:03
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lomapaseo :
Just who is expected to write such a standard?
Individual airline training departments ?
Standards are defined by ICAO and the National regulating agencies. (although nowadays it starts to be more the other way around )

Yes Individual (airlines) training departments should enforce those standards.
Then the Regulator should check and do a quality audit at regular intervals.
If deficiencies are registered, the National regulator should have authority to take action .
But today this is still utopia land we all agree...

flarepilot:
how can it be crew pairing? It was a check ride.

training, crm, culture? come on.

hand flying skills...who is to blame on faulty hand flying skills? is it the korean licensing body? is it the airline? is it the guy who is driving the plane?
Pairing a newly promoted check Capt on one of his first check-rides with someone himself on one of its first 777 flights is not exactly a very good idea I would argue.

Training : absolutely ! on performing regularly visual apps for instance.

Maintaining hand flying skills responsibility ?: all the 3 you mentionned. Yes.

Was lsitening to the NTSB debate the last hour before their lunch .Interesting. One comment from the Boeing Chief test pilot : " When we design an airplane we asume crews are very good at monitoring airspseed "
That put a smile on some faces .
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