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Old 11th Dec 2013, 13:33
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flarepilot
 
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it is about blame

captain worried? first off, which guy was captain, the check pilot or the newly type rated guy?

wrong mode? who selects right mode?

if this captain was in a department store, taking an escalator from second floor to the third floor and the escalator stopped moving...would he just stand there?

or would he climb the stairs before him...or even turn around about face and go down to the second floor?


ATC watcher, how can it be crew pairing? It was a check ride.

training, crm, culture? come on.


hand flying skills...who is to blame on faulty hand flying skills? is it the korean licensing body? is it the airline? is it the guy who is driving the plane?

certainly those big things sticking up in the console of the airplane had to be noticed by the pilots at some time in their careers.

indeed, how could they make the plane takeoff without moving the throttles forward, even while clicking on the auto throttles?

should we blame someone for not having a memory item checklist: if slow, push throttles forward manually?


maybe we need a checklist to make sure we put on our pants before we put on our shoes?


oh, thanks for posting the link to the live feed...interesting, hope you all can watch it...may even be an archive to watch it later.

testimony said that the crew did push throttles forward

but

obviously too late to do anything.

and no attempt to change flightpath/glidepath with controls.

and then three seconds later bam

so, the crew did know how to move throttles, they just didn't do it in time to make a difference.

even though papi would show them low

even though airpseed indicator would show them slow.


some people would call this: behind the plane

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