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Old 7th Dec 2013, 12:56
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LeadSled
 
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Wingnuts et al,
Re. B767 configurations, and two versus three crew on jet aircraft, you cannot sensibly discuss the whole industrial history without referring to the US Presidential Commission that dealt with the dispute of two versus three man crews, what it happened in the US, the Commission findings, and also in Australia.

Boeing did NOT build the B767 (and don't forget the 757) as a three man aeroplane at the request of United, read the history of the above. Boeing were quite cunning, the "three crew" B767 could be converted to two crew in a couple of hours. The Ansett simulator was the same, when it was hired by Qantas, it could be reconfigured to the two man configuration in double quick time.

Indeed, this matter was an important contributor to the breakaway of the AFAP Overseas Branch to form the AIPA. Quite simply, Qantas pilots would not go along with Australian domestic pilots demands for three man crews an any aircraft with 100 (I think that is the right number, it is quite a while ago) or more passenger seats.

Old TAA hands may well recall the industrial dispute about demanding three crew on the B737 --- and being out on the footpath, while their Ansett "colleagues" really coined it with all the extra flying they were doing.

As for Sir Peter Abeles arriving in Australia penniless, simply not true, and he did not start TNT, his original company was Alltrans Transport. Most of the rest of several posts dealing with E.H.P.Abeles owe more to imagination than fact.

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