Budgie: who here would not offer condolences to family and friends? Who here would not care deeply about the humanity behind these events? However, this is a forum which, like it or not, caters to those who wish to speculate about the sequence of events and causes. Doing so does not imply any disrespect to the dead. Indeed, my recent post, the tone of which displeases you, is my own way of indicating that some of the speculation here is absurd. However, I did not consider it my place to estimate the proportion of people here who are 'knobs', nor to seek to police this forum according to my own preferences.