Agreed. That's why I like Ironbutt's post =236= . Are the Mods on leave or something ? Of course, you don't have to read everything. I gave up after a few posts but looked in, now and again, to see where it was all going. Astonishing drivel. Lose one donk out of four (?), yeah, drills etc, re-plan for lower level, satisfy the CRM pundits with mnemonical diarrhoe like FORDEC,NOSDEC, FLIGHTDEC (I don't know what dek)-----------make a committee decision (don't forget to consult the Junior Cabin Attendant on the hours issue) and THEN, (not a mnemonic) summon the CA looking after you & ask what's for supper . On thread, these guys did everything right. Text book example for the rest of us to admire & replocate.