Ain't Got No Culture
In rebuttal: the point is not that this crew operated in accordance with sound, established, proven procedures (obviously the landing was highly anomolous). Rather the point was only that the contrast some (few) prior posters sought to draw is not fact-based (at least, to the extent posts on this board are factually derived in the immediate aftermath of such incidents). In Asiana, among the situational facts of which the community was quite immediately aware was the fact (or very highly likely fact) that Obsequiousness to PIC syndrome played a materially relevant role. This led to contentions, and/or discussion, and/or controversy, about the Korean civil aeronautics cockpit culture. In Dreamlifter We're Not in the Right Place in Kansas Anymore, whatever set of errors or omissions turn out to have been responsible, thus far, there is no predicate for saying that the junior crewmember was thinking 'this won't end well, but Hot Pants Herbie, I best not say anything about it to the Old Man.' To call a penalty here, on this thread to date, for Hypocrisy, would be like the zebras in Winnipeg last night whistling a Blackhawk or Jet for roughing the passer - the predicate for the call is not part of the facts.