Apples and Tangerines
Some posters have averred hypocrisy or other malefactions by referring to the perceived 'mistakes happen' paradigm prevalent in the thread, and contrasting it with the systemic weaknesses (rooted in cultural over-deference to seniority) identified relative to the Asiana crash at SFO. To those posters, only a short rejoinder is needed: whereas, in the Asiana crash, hierarchical obsequiance or over-deference appears to have been a large or major causative factor, in the incident discussed in this thread, there is no suggestion at all of any such poor cockpit management. So to raise the Asiana crash cultural factors here is like comparing apples and.....tangerines.