MJ - best post I've seen on Pprune lately!
That's before we mention the frequency "planning" which means EMA ATIS freq is same as CDG so approaching from the south in a Big Jet you can't copy ema ATIS till half way down descent through busy airspace with clearances coming thick and fast with PNF off ATC recording all the important stuff like "Birds in the vicinity etc. x"
I mentioned the frequency issue to a friendly ATCO years ago and the reply was "Ah well the DOC is only 60 miles"......
They may have changed the CDG ATIS freq now but it was like this for years!
Last edited by fireflybob; 10th Nov 2013 at 19:30.