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Old 4th Nov 2013, 22:59
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For the Non type rated guys considering CS you need to consider a few essential points which your recruiter nor the airline will disclose. This will essentially be a Cruise Captain job during your initial contract. You will be bonded around 20K. The pass rate for NTR guys is less than 20%. The simulator is the main tool utilized for elimination. A friend of mine went through recently and 3 of 14 guys passed the simulator. The medical is another huge eliminator. Many will NOT pass and those who do pass can be eliminated at one of their recurrent medicals. The failure rate is around 10% for recurrent medicals. You can also fail or be terminated for QAR issues, hard landings bu copilots and recurrent simulator checks. Initially the company will tell you that you will be a full up Captain but just flying along with a more senior Captain. This is an old widely circulated story told by many other airlines in the recent past. Look at Jade Cargo guys who flew as Cruise Captains for 4 years. Look at NTR 330 guys at Air China who are still flying as FOs and paid as FOs. Look at Juneyao guys who take almost 1.5 years to get fully qualified as NTR Captains. China and the CAAC has a long long history of brining on NTR pilots and promising them Captain jobs and then delivering only a Cruise Captain job. You will eventually make it to full Captain but it will be after a long long heavy process as Chinese Captains smoke on you in the cockpit and harass you as an inexperienced copilot. For those already type rated this will probably turn out to be a decent contract. Another limiting factor is CS is expanding their International flying from Guanzhou. For one who flies and travels frequently in China I can tell you it is an uneconomic hub. It is isolated and people in China don't want to fly internationally from there. Shanghai and Beijing is where all the action lies. I can see CS over extending themselves from this hub and creating an unsustainable economic hub. For those who think this will be choosing an out based hub like SYD or MEL or AMS etc. do not believe it. It might work out ok for the Airbus guys but the Boeing guys will fly most of their trips from Guanzhou so be prepared for endless Deadheads. There are obstacles at every turn in China and the bureaucracy is mind boggling here. Things to keep in mind while pondering a job in China.
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