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Old 4th Nov 2013, 11:55
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RetiredF4
 
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You've got several posters waving around accusations of total automation dependency - saying the crew were incompetent and unable to handfly in any way, when that was clearly not the case.
They clearly demonstrated, that they were not able to handfly this aircraft in this particular situation. And they clearly demonstrated, that they could not cope with the loss of some part of automation.

If we look at other happenings in this new world of commercial airplane flying and in the way automation flying is trained and stressed, and in part manual flying is even most times prohibited by the respective training departments of some airlines (and not few of them as the saying is here), how can one not see a lack in handling skills caused by too much automation dependency?

Yes, this crew might have been able to handfly once and the FO might have been an excellent glider pilot (which nobody knows so far), but at that special moment in that aircraft and at that flightlevel with the loss of valid airspeeds they only proved the following:

After loss of Airpeed indication, which caused the loss of automation devices like Autopilot, autothrust and degraded the flight envelope protection they crashed an airwothy airliner within a few minutes due to their inability to fly this aircraft straight and level by their own hands.

Whatever you like to call that, it never should have happened and it never should happen again. I go with those, who call that incompetent and unable to handfly, period.

Our concern should be, who is to be made responsible for this kind of incompetence and for this kind of automation dependency and how can we promote further training to stop the degradation of those required skills. More glider flying is not on my list though.
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