Yeah sorry eng123 - always thinking engines as point of reference. Should have used inboard/outboard of such-n-such.
Hey PifPaf (and eng123 can you confirm this):
Couldn't believe Boeing would be so dumb to have AC ENG BLEEDs that couldn't be opened if there was zip AC power available thereby making the first start impossible (I'm speaking -200's of course). Spoke to an old dog on -200's and the ENG BLEED valves are powered by the AC STBY BUS so unless you've cooked (or lost

) your ships battery - switch the STBY POWER switch to BATT and voila ... start away! So it doesn't necessarily matter what position the ENG BLEEDs were on shutdown coz you can always open them again on STBY PWR afterwards.