Apolla 4, I'd be interested to know why you think Skippers, or any other casual employer in the aviation industry, should control the outside employment of any of their part time employees? Perhaps you could point out where in the CAO's duty time NOT worked on behalf of your aviation employer should be recorded? While I agree that it is stupid and irresponsible to turn up to work when you are tired beyond all reasonable limits, the pilot and the company are not REQUIRED to take outside employment into account by per CAO's. THe whole casual thing needs looking into, but some companies operate that way, quite successfully. In any case, these jobs are usually treated as nothing more than a stepping stone by the vast majority of pilots. Doesn't make it right, but doesn't change it either.