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Old 30th Oct 2013, 09:47
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I am afraid, although valid, your parochial and possible blinkered comments direction is why we will not get to the Just Culture soon - Note my comment on the RAF's view on others. We are not the only show in town and if you look at ‘accidents v’s Hrs v’s airframes - the RAF are no shining beacon. Let’s get this done with the 4 worlds and 4 Services (even the Civvies if we have to!). We already get bad rep for being snobs, lets not fuel that rep – and – why have the RAF got 4 layers in the 1,2,3rd party assurance piece.

1st Party – Base/Station
2nd Party – ODH
3rd Party – MAA

Where do RAF FS (or should it be AS) and GP fit into this system that is meant to be simplified according to the accepted HC report? Are we again just saying we will and ignoring everyone else? Not sure the Army or Navy have kept this complicated over layered approach that must make it harder to administer a just culture?

PS – ‘Military Aircrew’ isn’t a single service term? Should we start an RAF only Forum?
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