Originally Posted by soaringhigh650
We have non-LARS radar units that want to talk to people outside their ATZ (Cambridge / Oxford)
We have non-LARS non-radar units that want to talk to people outside their ATZ (Lydd)
We have non-LARS radar units that are typically too busy to provide a service to people outside their CAS (Stansted / Manchester / London Control)
We have non-LARS non-radar units that are typically too busy to provide a service to people outside their ATZ (Shoreham)
We have LARS units that want to talk to people outside their ATZ (Southend)
We have LARS units that are happy to provide a service to people outside their CAS (Norwich)
We have LARS units that want to talk to people for far too many miles away from their ATZ (Farnborough)
Similarly pilots themselves persist in requesting Lower Airspace Radar Service from units which have no remit to provide it eg. Thames Radar and Solent Radar. The Initial Calls seeking such non-available LARS are often poorly prepared radio transmissions which themselves compromise flight safety by interrupting precision radar sequencing.
Clearly somebody somewhere needs to get a robust grip on the promulgation of the availability of radar services outside UK CAS. CAP774 so-called 'Duty of Care' has muddied the waters so much that ANSPs don't seem to know where they stand. Why on earth should CAS radar directors be expected to encumber their spare capacity such as it is by babysitting itinerant Class G traffic?