Good post Steepclimb. .. .I agree - many jobs in many professions suffer from the same problem - particularly in agressive, competitive industries.. .. .Shon posted: "Management treats you like dirt and you have to answer to people who cannot even spell aviation". .. .I've seen it from both sides - as a "worker" when it exactly as Shon says above; I've also been on the management side when I've been placed in positions where I've had to give out the s**t without being able to spell the name of the industry.. .(Now I work for myself so get the worst of both worlds <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> !). .. .So it boils down to what you personally want out of the job - I think we all know why we want to fly for a living - perhaps (I hope) it will take longer in such an inspiring job, for the position to become untenable....?. .. .QC