Captbloggs and BARKINGMAD
China Airlines 747SP suffered flameout on NO.4 at 41000ft with AP on, no big deal really ( I was 747 Capt). The capt. did a barrol roll and in few seconds lost 30000ft. Had it been at 30000ft it would have met the same fate as AF447. He was flying a real aeroplane not a FBW. He was an experienced captain and not a rookie copilot. Nobody blamed 747. Things happen you know.