Originally Posted by
Smott999
The FO may have been making just as crappy if not worse of a landing.
For all we know the CA saved them from the drink.
That's certainly possible, but I think most would agree that the captains job is "Keep the airplane from crashing, period". not : "prevent the FO form crashing the airplane by crashing the airplane in a completely different way"
Originally Posted by
Smott999
Obviously a GA would have been best - but it seems very possible the FO hacked it up the app/landing to begin with. So they both made mistakes.
She gets fired.
He gets more training.
RIght-O!
Yes, it *is* possible. As I mentioned earlier, certainly the Captain thought so. But ... From what we know, the airplane was approximately on speed, and it was configured and had been since around the FAF. But the approach may have been going long, prompting her to take over. But from that point she has 400 ft and 1-1/4 NM to fix whatever sins the FO committed. She stuffed the nose down at less than 32 feet and less than 4 seconds from impact. It's pretty hard to blame that on what the FO did sometime earlier.
As far as the She got fired-he got retrained bit, you seem to by trying to build a case that she's being unfairly treated because she's a woman. Horsecrap.
She was the captain.
She was the handling pilot.
She alone stuffed the nose down into the ground.
I think at most airlines, if you crash an airplane and all those conditions are present, and there's nothing in the way of mitigating factors, you're gonna get your last paycheck handed to you, doesn't matter how many X chromosomes you have.
AS far as the FO getting retrained instead of fireds, lets review:
The FO's sins were at worst:
Flying an approach that while configured and approximately on speed, *may* have been high/long.
Failing to react in time to the Captain's last minute abrupt pitch down at very low altitude to prevent hitting nosewheel first.
The Captains sins were :
Crashing a perfectly good airplane in fairly benign conditions solely as a result of her airplane handling.
Now, if you can't see that the is a vast difference between the Captain and PF crashing an airplane and the FO and PM failing to prevent the crash, and that the former is almost certainly a firing offense, and the latter may not be, it's because you don't want to see it.