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Old 29th Sep 2013, 20:20
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NITRO104
 
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JSFfan, what freakin' APUC??
Who's talking about APUC, anywhere??
SAR doesn't and neither does the Congressional FY budgetary documentation, which are about the only documents providing these figures.
And who cares what F22 cost in 2005, when the last F22 batch to which Sweetman refered, was in 2009??
JSFfan, I've responded directly to what you quoted as Sweetman's 'figure skewing' (quoted below) and showed that he was NOT 'figure skewing', but compared apples to apples, so download the latest SAR and USAF comptroller's report for FY2009 (link provided in previous post) and crosscheck them yourself. It's not my problem you apparently don't understand what's written there, but if you wanna call people clowns better make sure you don't wear a clown hat yourself first.

Originally Posted by JSFfan
What about the frugal, do-more-with-less Marines? At full rate, the F-35B costs $138 million in 2018, versus $117 million for the F-35C. That’s nearly 80 percent of the price of the last batch of F-22s – you remember, that extravagantly expensive toy for the white-scarf air force – but coming off a 110-per-year line. What would have been the F-22 price at 40 per year, rather than 20?
About this (supposedly quoting Sweetman);
F-35A delivered eleven years hence, at full rate, will have an APUC tag of $89 million [he doesn't say what f-35 year $] and was 80% of the f-22
Pardon my French, but are you stupid??
Sweetman referred to FY18 F35B/C cost being nearly 80% of the last batch (FY09) F22 cost, not to F35A $89m APUC and there's no this quotation of yours anywhere in the text, so you just made it up.
JSFfan, according to USAF FY14 budgetary documentation the actual WS cost for the F35A in FY18 which is the year in which the FRP is supposed to start, will be over $107m per plane in '13 dollars! and APUC includes on top of WS cost spare parts and consumables, so Sweetman actually predicted over $18m per plane smaller cost than it stands today, which isn't strange if you consider the tempo in which the program runs.

Anyway, what else is there?
Let's clear all of this and be done with it.

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