Id like to respond to some of the comments regarding my previous post.
The post began when somone asked what the story was with EPST.
I responded with my observations from the EPST cadets i have encountered, and do encounter every day.
I have no wish to attack them. The information i gave came from the EPST cadets through conversation with them. If they dispute what i have said then it is they that are unable to articulate what EPST is. The others who have read this post who are familiar with these cadets have not seen anything less than truthful in my previous post.
Anyway know that is off my chest, i will respond to the points made.
Firstly ill quotes some of the comments which i can swear on both my enormous bollocks were made by the first group of EPST cadets to arrive in WMU. I will say that it is these cadets that were given the incorrect impression and have no idea and therefore cannot offer any opinion on what EPST have told them. What i will say is that the second course of EPST cadets i met, are not under the same impression as the first.
The quotes
1) "If we get more than 85% in our exams then theres no reason for BA not to take us"
2) "Were as much part of BA as you are"
3) "I was told i was preselcted for BA"- to head of BA pilot recruitment.
4) "Well can you tell me what i am doin here"-again to head of BA pilot recruitment after previous statements response was in the negative.
(slightly more aggressively spoken)
5) EPST cadets very upset with BA cadet who ordered BA t-shirts who hadnt ordered them for EPST cadets.
6) If you can find the speedbird 7 website, ( i couldnt actually, but im told it exists) then a member of EPST posted a mesage describing he/him (as coming to WMU later in the year) as speedbird 9.
7) "When will we be introduced to BA?"- said by EPST cadet to senior WMU official during post sept 11th briefing, illustrating the current predicament following the attacks and the implications on VFR flying, security and the ineviatable problems it will cause for pilot recruitment.
Thermy,
In response to your post,
a) "i dont know where you got your info from "
b) "Doesnt look very professional to me"
If i have your identity correct, ( MS with leopard skin), hopefully this is sufficiently subtle( even though thats not your strong point) to let you know that i know who you are without embarassing you further, you can manage that yourself. If youre not who i think you are, then please ignore the below comment.
A) i got quite a lot of info from you! Points 3,4,5,6 and 7 above were quotes from you! Can you believe that!- if you have anything you can add to this post or dispute the points i made, then please do so, im attempting to inform tunneller of the bad points of EPST, if you can counter them then do so, dont just post an uninformative post criticising anothers post without backing it up in some way- thats not unprofessional, its just useless.
Secondly, regarding what i should and shouldnt post here, this is a rumour network. I am entitled to post positive and negative things as required and i am professional enough to consider very carefully what i post, and ensure that it is as objective as possible.
Talking of being unprofessional, a little public email that went around post dinner would probably demonstrate how "professional" you are. Dont tell me it was confidential because you sent it to the whole course. You obviously arent opposed to public criticism of others, so why cant they criticise you? No i can put my hand on heart and tell you i wouldnt do that, but i think ive proven my point.
Now having said all that, i heard a rumour that some of the EPST cadets actually emailed the moderator to have this thread closed.( i think a nerve may have been taouched)
I gather the response was in the negative. If this is incorrect, then im sure i will be correcred by WWW or scroggs. As i said in the first sentence of the paragraph, it is a RUMOUR i heard. Requesting this smacks of censorship, surely reasoned debate would help attract EPST cadets, rather than thermys enlightend comments. If a line pilot requested that any time a negative comment was made about their airline, then pprune would slow to a grinding halt. Its called free speech guys, get a life. Im also told that the cadets contacted the head of EPST who told them not to worry. That in itself imroves my impression of him.
Attempting to find my identity too by asking around who was in the computer room when my first reply was posted and investigating with robotic like precision is extremely anal, get over it!
What i would further like to add is that i heard
that one EPST cadet in thinks that hell be a captain in 6 years. THis is maybe good marketing be EPST, or is that brainwashing. Or is it just niave. If a FO becomes a captain in six year, and theres an equal number of captains and FOs in an airline, then surely you must retire after 12 yrs. This cant be correct can it???
Also i heard another rumour that one of the previous posts (b747-sp) is the son of EPSTs founder. If this isnt correct, then my apologies 747-sp.and if its another poster, then please identify yourself as such.
Now if you want to reply to the points i made, then do me the service of doing so to help those who may be thinking of applying to EPST. If you can produce a copy of the contract stating what guarantee EPST give you about placement and more importantly what happens if youre not placed, do you owe any cash, does EPST pay it off? I dont know, you tell us, show us the contract.
To finish, i know youre aware im a BA cadet, my previous post on another thread stated that, and i know you looked-(sherlock homes would be proud). I have been very careful not to make this sound like a BA cadet versus EPST cadet thread. If that kind of thread had been started on Jetblast i wouldnt have bothered even looking at it twice, never mind posting. We all saw the hammering Vref and carnage matey gave seneca soarer-most of the BA cadets sat back and let it roll-the malicious tuff was what got that thread closed down, but i dont know of any BA cadet who asked for that thread to be closed, just because people came out who had a bad impression of us, rightly or wrongly.
I dont wish to make this a competition, really , i wish you all the best, but some of you seem too think that it is. If anyone can be bothered find EPST 1swebsite. Look for the "breaking news"- it stated EPST cadets beat BA cadets in class exams. Now tell me thats not anal. One), We didnt know there was a competion 2) we hope everyone in the class does well 3) apparently your marks were better by 1% average- who the hell counted that up, who cared enough to even make the effort to find that out? Shame on you, we should all be in his together. Youll probably think this is sour grapes, but i can put my hand on both balls and say it honestly is not. ( However i wonder what the average would have been if one of you number hadnt gone home with a mystery illness the doctors in america couldnt diagnose which then mysteriously cleared up when they went home!)In fact if you take their mark at their exams later on, i bet the average is changed, and not in your favour!! If your target mark is 85% and EPSTs average was 84 and BA 83, while BAs target marks were 75%, then surely we actually beat you??
I dont wish to air dirty laundry in public, but if you my integrity,thermy but accusing me of posting without thinking about the advice i gave to a wannabee, then i will respond proportionally. I would question your selective memory of the things that you have said.
Anyway i think i have taken up enough space, my last post threw the cat amongst the pigeons, i wonder if this will do the same.
Again if any previous EPST cadets have views then i would be interested to hear them. If they havent been led up the garden path, i would like to hear their views.
Have a happy christmas everyone.