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Ryanair in the South African courts

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Always flying moet pasop

Redery wil weet wie hom slegsê

Jeanne-Marié Versluis
Dinsdag 10 September 2013

Die Europese lugdiens Ryanair het ’n hofbevel teen Telkom SA verkry sodat hy kan vasstel wie in Suid-Afrika hom onder ’n skuilnaam op die internet belaster.

Die hooggeregshof in Pretoria het Telkom gister beveel om alle inligting in sy besit aan Ryanair te gee wat dié sal help om die internetgebruiker, wat die skuilnaam “always flying” gebruik, te identifiseer.

Die lugdiens, wat vlugte na 29 lande in Europa en Noord-Afrika onderneem, sê in hofstukke hy het ’n vlekkelose aansien vir veiligheid die afgelope 29 jaar.

Hy het in September 2012 bewus geword van “verskeie lasterlike stellings” op ’n webwerf wat sowat 370 000 geregistreerde gebruikers het.

Vlieëniers, joernaliste en ander professionele mense oor die wêreld heen teken op die webwerf in.

Die gewraakte stellings is deur verskeie gebruikers gemaak.

Die lugdiens het ’n regsfirma in Los Angeles gekry om van die gebruikers op te spoor en regstappe teen hulle in die VSA te doen.

Die firma moes ook ’n lasbrief teen die webwerf-eienaar in Kalifornië verkry om die gebruikers se identiteite op te spoor.

Hierna is lasbriewe verkry teen verskeie derdepartye soos Yahoo! Inc., Microsoft Corporation en Google Inc. om gebruikers se ware name op te spoor.

Ryanair het ’n spesialis-konsultantmaatskappy, Word to the Wise, aangestel om te kyk van watter IP-adresse (internet protokol) die stellings gemaak is. Dit is vasgestel “always flying” se IP-adres is in Suid-Afrika en gekoppel aan die netwerk van Telkom Mobile 8ta.

Volgens Ryanair het dié gebruiker 20 stellings gemaak, waarvan een besonder aanstootlik is en skade berokken.

Die gebruiker het op 20 September 2012 ’n stelling gemaak wat daarop neerkom dat die lugdiens se vlieëniers nie behoort te vlieg nie en dat hy hulle sou afdank as hulle vir sý onderneming gewerk het.

Volgens Ryanair skets dié vals stelling sy vlugpersoneel as onbekwaam.

Ryanair wil die gebruiker se besonderhede en kontakadres by Telkom kry.
Sodra hy dit kry, wil hy die gebruiker versoek om die stelling te verwyder en ’n openbare verskoning aan te bied vir die publikasie van enige verkeerde stellings.

Ryanair sê hy het hard en lank gewerk om ’n goeie aansien in die lugdiensbedryf te verdien.

Translation


Always flying must watch out

Airline wants to know who is defaming it

Jeanne-Marié Versluis
Tuesday 10 September 2013

The European airline Ryanair has obtained a court order against Telkom SA so that it can determine who in South Africa is defaming it under a pseudonym on the internet.

Yesterday the High Court in Pretoria odered Telkom to give Ryanair all information in its possession which would help the latter to identify the internet user who uses the pseudonym "always flying".

The airline, which serves 29 countries in Europe and North Africa, stated in the court pleadings that had a spotless image for safety over the last 29 years.

In September 2012 it became aware of "various defamatory postings" on a website with 370,000 registered users.

Air crews, journalists and other professional people around the world have signed on to the website.

The objectional postings have been made by various users.

The airline appointed a law firm in Los Angeles to track down the users and to take legal action against them in the USA.

The firm had to get an order of court against the website-owner in California to track down the users' identities.

Thereafter orders were obtained against various third parties such a Yahoo! Inc, Microsoft Corporation and Google Inc to track down users' real names.

Ryanair appointed a specialist consultancy, Word to the Wise, to determine what IP addresses (internet protocol) were making the postings. It was determined that the IP address of "always flying" is in South Africa and linked to the network of Telkom Mobile 8ta.

According to Ryanair, this user has made 20 postings, among which one is especially repugnant and has caused damage.

The user, on 20 September 2112, made a posting which implied that the airline's aircrews ought not to be flying and that he would dismiss them if they were employed by himself.

According to Ryanair this falsehood depicts its aircrews as incompetent.

Ryanair wants to obtain the user's details and contact address from Telkom.

Thereafter, it wants to request the user to remove the posting and to make a public apology for the publication of any wrongful postings.

Ryanair says it has worked hard and long to earn a good image in the airline industry.
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