I do have to agree with your position there, Wensleydale. Change someone's pension expectatins when it's too late to do much about it is neither reasonable nor morally supportable. This has nothing to do with how good or bad their pension agreement was, not anything to do with what anyone else's pay or future expectations may be. It's what they were contracted to expect, that needs to be honoured. Same as the AFPS needs to be.