Yeah, we need more like double 8 to counsel. My mate, aged over 60 was called into the fleet office & given the Boss's Assistant who explained why the company was going to have to let him go with immediate effect. In the middle of the explanation, Office Boy's wife phones and a discussion on whether or not she wants mayonnaise on her KFC take home burger ensues. My buddy wished there was a KFC burger handy on the table as Office Boy would have wound up wearing it. That office visit terminated 40 years in the airline industry. Charming. But, he is terribly happy enjoying retirement because he has a certain optimistic & positive attitude to everything.