Thanks Affretage I appreciate that and reciprocate for any confusion between the two. I do keep abreast of what is going on in the market today but wouldn't go back to it at any price.
I certainly do not agree with all that 'he' has done but there has been a lot of good along the way as well, another whole thread there, he is still though welcome at my table.
Sorry to see another name from the past die away.