Yep, ok - I admit most people who have posted here have good valid points. Different perspectives invite different arguments. At different stages in people's lives and careers BA may seem more or less attractive. Personally I can say now I won't ever moan about the pay, or the fact that my push-back truck is late. Any commitment to any job comes with a certain amount of bias towards the future, but if your own personal commitment is strong enough then I think these little factors won't matter much. The truth is, for all those who don't make BA - then of course its not the end of the universe. But equally, for all who do make it, it does mean the whole universe. Is there anything wrong with that? GE xx