Sit down with a trainer these days and be astounded by the stories coming out of the mill. We are well into the JFO upgrade cycle that includes many zero or low time guys courtesy of the accountants. Of course many advance without issue but many are using an extension to the lufus extension and ........ nobody wants to see somebody washed out. The erosion of the marginal skills developed in Oz sitting and watching the world go by for the last three years is not a best case scenario either.