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Old 6th March 2003 | 15:04
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Ludwig
 
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Devil Clear of Cloud and insight of the ground

What eactly does this mean and for the legal peeps amongst us, how far can you push it and stay legal?

Picture the day, blue sky, sunshine and fluffy white clouds, just right for wheeling and soaring and slipping surley bonds etc round over and under.

Do you actually have to be able to see the ground all the time, ie if you wheel and soar round a particularly big blob and cannot see the ground for a couple of seconds as you go over the top, is that OK?

Later on, the gaps between the clouds reduce so that you are now over the top of the cloud, not in it, that would be wrong but over a fairly stead block of cloud. Eight miles in the distance you can just make out the ground through a gap, a condition that is extant for the duration of your over the top flight, and through which yu later let down keeping clear of cloud so technically, the ground is in sight although the cloud beneath you, it's solid. Is this OK legally?

Don't bother about whether it is a good idea, safe etc etc, just is it legal assuming say a permit a/c and only a plain vanilla PPL.

Part 2 How can anyone proove that you did not have sight of the ground in such conditions. Wx aftercasts showing solid unremitting fog, cloud or whatever I accept would be easy, but what about 7/8th days, who can tell that you did see the ground

Just a thought, I myself would never do anything remotely questionable, this question is for the greater good!
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