So Jaba you say
"My ops are not RPT, and usually I have so much fuel it is not a problem. I almost went to YSDU/YNRM yesterday, but realising the holding/alternates and expected wx may have meant returning to Brisbane, I cancelled, was not worth the effort, and I would have arrived back here with 1.25 hrs fuel even after doing a MA. So my fuel policy/capability is not relevant o a B737 operation."
Well you are questioning RPT pilots about what fuel they carry, so I wanted to know yours. So you arrived back with 1.25 hours of fuel even after doing a MA, big deal, this happens everyday in the RPT world with most flights landing with the 1-2 hours fuel.
And then you say "was MEL closed? Or were there ILS ops in use with legal landings?" At the flight planning stage, when you say the crews should have put on more fuel the ML TAF was 5 lines long with low cloud and showers and a Prob 30 of Fog, the 1900 ML TTF had 500m vis in Fog from 2000, so it was below the cat 1 ILS landing minima and bellow the special ALtn minima. To use ML the crew would have needed a FF of around 2800 kg overhead AD, add on FR, holding fuel and allowing for 2 approaches they would have needed to arrive overhead AD with at least 8000kg. That's over 5000kg more than what the crews planned on arriving into AD, with the forecast having no requirements. BTW CB was also out due to fog.
Your next reply
"Unstable? yeah and how well would that hold up, I thought the pax was unstable I think I would have just the same amount of success alleging you as the Captain were equally unstable and definately had the access and ability to actually use it as a weapon Vs me down the back. FFS if you are going to take shots at me do better than that" You must be losing your memory, have a look at all the 911 flights, coast to coast with lots of fuel and they become weapons. Have a read of CAR309 regarding Powers of PIC.
And your final reply
"Again, min fuel Vs prudent, knowing what ADL and places can be like at that time of year? It is a judgement call, Captains discresion. So why then would plenty of folk who actually captain these things into these ports say they always carried more under situations like that?" Both these flights did not take min fuel, min fuel as per the regulations would have had them arriving in AD with 30 mins of fuel. Care to give examples of how much fuel and what triggers the"folk who actually captain these things into these ports" use? Both these flights had "captains" who fly to these ports and they planned to arrive with similar fuel, based a forecast that had no requirements.
Agree with what porch monkey said regarding your previous posts and what he said about your comments on this thread.
For those asking about how the metars are generated at YMIA, they are done by the BOM observer based on the airport.
Last edited by BPA; 20th Jul 2013 at 04:43.