Ok spazsinbad, got it. I guess I still scratch my head that a F18 LSO was there. Not sure how it is these days but it used to be any LSO can wave you on shore for practice but they preferred someone in the community to wave you on the boat. Who knows, you'd think if the others rated their own jacket, he'd have a really cool one. I suppose on the other hand I'd keep my hornet jacket lest someone confuse me for a video game operator only.