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Old 15th Jul 2013, 12:42
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Lonewolf_50
 
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It was a clear, a no-wind day and the airplane was doing everything that it
should have.
The target that was the end of the runway was in sight, if the target moved
up you add power. If it moves down, you retard power.
You concentrate on where you want to land and act accordingly...but then,
that is if you are a pilot.
That reflex/pattern/habit is apparently being trained out of long haul line pilots via neglect. That's the problem a lot of pilots have mentioned in the course of this discussion.

See, for example, the comments by the following gentleman:
HPSOV_L

The system is setting pilots up for failure. Does the industry care?
Fox3 suggests not, when it comes to cost benefit analysis.

How likely is it that the public will be receptive to the point Fox 3 makes?

I don't know.

Basic flying skills proficiency seems to have been a root cause of AF 447. A pilot could not fly straight and level in cruise while non flying pilot trouble shot a systems malfunction. Basic pilot skills, not in evidence.

Two captains flew an approach that got low and slow at the back end of the power curve. Flew an approach that was not stable. Dropped 30 kts below VREF without making a decisive correction. Basic piloting skills not in evidence. Go around not initiated in a timely fashion.

Lion Air: unstable approach, landed short, thank God nobody died on that crash . (And that one had Wx as an element. ) Go around not initiated in a timely fashion.

Are these isolated incidents, or are they symptoms of an industry with a disease?

"The pilots are to blame" is an easier sound byte to swallow. It also means less effort on getting systemic fixes put into place.

How costly has it been to implement and embed in the culture CRM? Bloody expensive, but it was done (thank God) in order to make flying better and safer. (I am

What is it going to take to resolve the issues like A330 flown by Air Afrique into the ground?

How many more body bags?

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