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Old 14th Jul 2013, 13:13
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Flyer94
 
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grimmrad,

in my opinion there have been 4 pilots and all of them had lots of hours. Basic flying skills had to be there. Not checking speed and altitude and not to answer both are dropping is a huge failure of all of them. Even if one of the pilots, lets say the pilot flying (PF), did not recognize it, what's about the other gentlemen? Why didn't they respond?

Every student pilot gets drummed "Speed is life, altitude is life insurance", "Aviate - navigate - communicate", "First fly the aircraft" and "Never let an aircraft take you somewhere, your brain didn't get to 5 minutes earlier."

A lot of airlines require their pilots that the approach at certain points must be stable, for example at a 1000 ft gate - or to go around if not everything is in smooth condition at that point.

So I ask for the competence of the PF, the PNF and also the other crewmembers of that cockpit. Why didn't they recognize and prevent what happend?

Even if there are cultural circumstances, at some point a will to survive must kick in... And that's another very large site:

In the 1990's Korean Air lost many planes because crews did not work together in a proper way. The whole world introduced modern Crew resource management systems (CRM) in order to coordinate crew cooperation and to dismantle obstructive hierarchies. What about the Koreans?

They continue working under the old principles and continue to have bad accidents with it. Time is over to remain silent about that and to be political correct. These guys kill people with this behaviour. It is macabre, but seeing the Asiana wreckage and how it spinned around after impact, one must wonder that there are not 300+ dead. A little bit less height or speed and the aircraft would be completely crashed against the shore fortifications.

When the hell Korean aviation launches its renewal? How many deaths they still want to accept before they arrange with modern ways of crew coordination? Nothing against their culture, but if it does not fit into the cockpit, they must change it in the cockpit or should not fly.

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