PPRuNe Forums - View Single Post - Swiss downsize definite
View Single Post
Old 4th Mar 2003, 14:33
  #38 (permalink)  
skypointer
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: europe
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Devil

Sorry to spoil your SWISS-beating party...

I donīt think you would appreciate it if an outsider would tell you : "oh, stop complaining at United, just hand in 30% of your already large pay check, and get on with it"
Nice words RV, only that you haven't given anything so far, while those (in this forum) much beaten ex-Swissair pilots actually have given 35% of their salary - on top of 30% lay-offs that is...

Now let me tell you a few facts:

CCP denied 16% pay increase as not sufficient - they want the same salaries for a Saab pilot as for an MD11 pilot (as - according to CCP - the only difference between the two is, that longhaul pilots leave their Autopilot on a little longer )

CCP also desires factual protection from dismissals, as according to them all 840 ex-Swissair pilots would have to go before any of them was layed off. This in spite of the fact that the Crossair fleet was hugely oversized from the start (I have been poining this out for more than a year). What CCP wants is that ex-Swissair staff not only has to pay for Swissair's mistakes (what they already did), but also for Crossair's, now that they are corrected. In the meantime CCP pilots cannot be dismissed, have higher salaries and fly the big planes (according CCPseniority). Why for gods sake doesn't AEROPERS agree to this plan?!?

CCP is unwilling to do the least bit for the survival of SWISS. They do not show up to union talks, they seem to try to scare away our passengers with statements about CCP-pilots fitness to fly, and they even ran to court because SWISS wanted them - as all other employees, including ex-Swissair always did - to pay something for their airport-parkings. The last point IMHO shows CCPs state of mind remarkably well!

CCP argues that a Seniority Number according to SAir Lines - which Swissair and Crossair were part of - will make SWISS liable for SAir Groups depts. To think that pilot seniority will make a difference after SWISS took over 2/3 of Swissair's employees, aircraft and infrastructure and its whole know how without paying a penny seems rather naive to me!

There have been some who said the two unions behave childish. While I'd rather not comment on CCP, I have to say that I don't see AEROPERS fit in here. AEROPERS does everything to support the management in making SWISS a safe and profitable airline. I hope that the CCP members with some sense of resposibility and reason will hinder their union from destroying their employer the same way as CCP destroyed its goodwill within SWISS and Switzerland...

Just a little quiz for the seniority specialists:
If all ex-SR get an entry date of 31.03.2002, which pilots fly which aircraft, who is Captain and who First Officer and who will be dismissed? All have the same entry date and there is no possibility of direct entry Captains. Funny situation! May I guess the CCP solution? Get rid of all ex-SR and the problem is solved! Why is AEROPERS to stupid to see the simplicity and beauty of this solution???

Last edited by skypointer; 4th Mar 2003 at 15:25.
skypointer is offline