Ah the great myth of our age. We'll get you out of jail boys. Oh really, a collective ban on flying into offending country heh! You couldn't get a collective ban on anything, what utter nonsense. It has been demonstrated time and time again that industrial muscle does not work in this day and age and don't quote the odd national carrier like Air Lingus they merely slowed the inevitable. The old us and them mentality has to go. Despite their presence throughout the industry terms and conditions are changing and not for the better, not out of malice from the employers but out of need in the changing climate. All we get from BALPA though is the rhetoric of the sixties.