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Old 7th Jul 2013, 03:54
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Mic Dundee
 
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Originally Posted by bugg smasher
Irrespective as to whether it contributed to this accident in any way, it's outrageous that an airport the size of KSFO has no electronic or visual G/S.

Temporary VASIS or PAPIS can't have been that expensive until R/W works were complete.
It is part and parcel of all professional airline pilot training that one must be able to safely conduct a variety of approaches, down to the applicable minimums. This includes not only the standard ILS approach, but LOC, RNAV, and visual approaches, amongst others, and depending on the Ops Specs of the particular airline, circling approaches as well. RNP is the latest iteration, our tool boxes are increasing exponentially every year.

These operations are rigorously tested in the simulator every six months, any pilot falling short of acceptable standards is sent for retraining, in the event said aviator still comes up short, s/he is immediately, and without remorse of any kind, shown to the nearest hole in the wall.

Most call it the door. It is pretty bleak on the other side.

No more of this nonsense please.
My Son-in-law is a CFI-MEI. He says his Asian students come over here for their specialized JAA/EASA and FAA ab initio training. He says while they're on their landing rollout, the tower might say "exit on taxiway Juliet," and the student will do everything to make that turn, even if it means collapsing the gear to make that exit, when "common sense" dictates a safer course of action would be to respond "unable" and take, say the next safest exit. These are the students who head back and are placed (from a Seminole) into a B-777 F/O position. Clueless! No common sense! Cannot make a decision outside the box! incredible. I've been flying in and out of SFO on a regular basis, and their 28's G/S's and PAPI's have been OTS for a while (don't know why?), but who cares when it's CAVOK? Just Programme your own glide path (VNAV, HGS, etc.) and keep a visual scan, inside, then outside, etc.
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