Well LAYME, I'm not prepared to enter into a p!ssing contest on this issue but to quote just one example, I must say your attitude appears to match the one of a LAME, employed by a very prominent operator based at SYD International who threatened me with a walkoff because I asked him for a roll of speed tape to cover a fist sized hole in the left inboard flap of our 747; which he and his colleagues missed on their certified transit check and was reluctant to rectify himself to avoid a departure delay!