PPRuNe Forums - View Single Post - Air France does a 'Memmingen'.
View Single Post
Old 24th Jun 2013, 22:04
  #137 (permalink)  
A4

Ut Sementem Feeceris
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 3,467
Received 157 Likes on 32 Posts
Yes SR - but you BRIEFED (including the CC), PLANNED, MONITORED,were ENERGY AWARE and accepted you may have to throw it away. BIG difference. You didn't continue to < 500' with the GPWS shouting!

Alf - I can see what you're getting at BUT this was not an inexperienced crew (Capt 10,000TT with 2,600 on type, FO 1,700 on type). The FO should be past the mentoring stage and the Capt....well.....I'd like to think he should be all "tacit'd up" by now!

.....modern operational scenarios are more resource demanding, require greater awareness, ......
The Airbus PFD, ND, FMGC PROG Page are very useful Resourses and are there to enhance awareness. We are spoiled today with the sheer quantity and quality of the information presented by a modern airliner FMS - but you've still got to be able to do the basic mental maths to back it all up. IMHO this crew didn't.

Whatever the reasons - be it arrogance, inability, culture, cognitive overload, weak FO, dominant Captain, fatigue, (lack of) Training - there was a near lethal cocktail on the flight deck that day and they only just got away with it.
A4 is online now