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Old 21st Jun 2013, 17:35
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A4

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Thanks BOAC - pretty much sums up my take

Events of this magnitude are rare. Alf, I don't know if you're a pilot or not but we're talking about fundamentals here. It's a bit like an accountant trying to add up a ledger, but putting on a blindfold before operating the calculator - you just wouldn't do it because you know the chance of getting the sums correct are zero. A Professional pilot should have the ability to admit they've screwed up. Hopefully they learn from it and don't do it again.

So there is no "problem" to be identified - other than, IMHO, cultural or attitude - be that macho or nationalistic.

Alf - we were both typing at the same time. Your second point regarding blame culture is valid - to a point. Most developed airlines have active monitoring systems in place so that events like this can be investigated and the crew debriefed and retrained as required. However there is definite difference between an approach which was a bit high/fast and only just made the required "stable gates" and one such as this which was nothing short of reckless. Sometimes you've got so say it like it is - this was screwed up on a mammoth scale and the crew should be managed accordingly. Sometimes sanction AND retraining is warranted. The sanction may well go a long way to enhancing safety culture because it sets a precedent - if it's kept quite then no one benefits.

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