bus TRE
1. An Airbus can crash, stall, CFIT etc. like any other aircraft.
2. An Airbus is not worse than any other design, but it is not better just because of its design either.
I don't want to enter the statistics debate again, but another FBW design has a better safety record. This is not to say that this one is better, but it simply anihilates the eternal myth that certain thing never happen or are much less prone to happen on Airbus.
In the mentioned case it might be true that flying precise max-alpha is the best way out of terrain trouble, but this can be done just as well without Airbus FBW. I have flown the AB, the T7 and the MD11. All of them FBW and they are equally good in flying out of terrain. Even the older stick-shaker mounted aircraft can fly out of trouble close to stick shaker and with average skills the pilot can get asymptotically close to what the Airbus admittedly does very nicely.
Your call that this is only achievable on Airbus is quite preposterous.
It is this myth of some invulnerability of Airbus that cultivates pilots who fly escape manoeuvres with full stick back in any situation.
Sure enough they have heard and were once briefly trained that in such and such law this and this does not work, however if you do such and such the system reverts to this and this, you simply have to switch that and that and consider this and this, then you will know that such and such manoeuvre does not work, however the this and this can still be applied.
You super TREs, Dozys and not to forget the Clandestinos, you astronauts might well know that at any given moment and at least one of you even knows how to do that in real time. But if you are completely honest, you might admit that when the s#!t hits the fan in real life (as opposed to the desk), for some awfully long moments your brain goes into shedding mode.
It is in those moments when the dumbed down assumption that Airbus will take care of everything takes over and the followers just pull and wait. QED.
That is what I call BS, that is what any common sensed pilot and TRE should fight. A start would be to stop with such dumb assertions that Airbus does this and that better than others. It is a fine machine, but that's it.
Another BS is the call for more protections, more automation, more gimmicks to check, recheck, countercheck and overrule anything a pilot does in the cockpit.
Anything can and will fail eventually, Murphys law is a present as Alternate or Direct law. Even such add-on gimmicks can fail. What if all screens go blank? It has happened! In what law are you then????
What we need is a simple independent back-up to all the electronics like i.e. a pneumatically (wind) driven gyroscopic horizon and a unprocessed access to the flight controls.
And then we need pilots who still are capable to fly an aircraft with that!!!!!
That should help in the first moments, not any pretension that the aircraft will do it for you.
Last edited by Gretchenfrage; 16th Jun 2013 at 12:38.