Ayro, 'when you pay your workers to do a job' but isn't that the point. Part of their contact was a pension. They knew they'd never die rich but they bargained that against the secure pension option. So for all those years when they dragged themselves out of bed at ungodly hours or worked through kids birthdays and anniversaries the deal was " you do this, and we'll mind your future". Stock markets fell, property crashed and a hole appeared in the plan. The company doesn't get to walk away Scott free any more than they get their lost weekends back, and that my young fella is what happens in the real world. And belt up with to your envelopes of a hundred grand, do you know how much an office worker, baggage handler makes? Real world indeed... They could teach you a thing or two. And can we all stop playing poor old racedo's game, he's been wrong so many times its painful, fire everyone, real world lads, grown up conversations.