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Old 3rd Jun 2013, 14:52
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Apr. 30th NTSB .... NTSB Senior Air Safety Investigator Tim LeBaron will be the U.S. accredited representative. ...
.... The Afghanistan Ministry of Transportation ..... will be the sole source of information regarding the investigation. ...
Apr. 30th MungoP ... Looking down on the impact signature .... it could be seen that the cargo included at least 6 MRAPS ....
Apr. 30th B-HKD ... You can fit 6 MRAPs on a -400BDSF with clever use of available floor space. Some operators will load 5 others 6.
May 2nd janeczku ... In the unlikely case that an Afghan investigator should show up at the gates of Bagram airbase ...
May 2nd Desert .... If reports are true, the Afghans have stated they will not investigate. ....
May 10th Dep Chief PPRuNe Pilot ..... Thread closed until the preliminary comes out in a few days. ....
May 14th wrecker ... The CVR/FDR on the accident aircraft stopped working on rotation; engine/fuselage/tail parts were located on the runway. A total of (7) MRAP armored vehicles were being carried as cargo. ....
May 17th FAA SAFO 13005
May 23rd DownIn3Green .... The investigation will give the answers soon enough...
Two weeks ago I asked if anyone knew:
(1) When did the Afghan authorities last issue a report on an aircraft accident?
(2) In that case, how much time elapsed between the accident and the publication of the final report?
(3) Also in that case, was a preliminary report also issued, and if so, how much time elapsed between the accident and the publication of the preliminary report?

So far, no one has reported the existence of any report.

The Afghanistan Ministry of Transportation and Civil Aviation has a web-site, with one page devoted to Home --> Aviation --> Flight Safety at:
Branches
(also reproduced in a post below).

It lists only one Branch, for "Light Safety Operational and Technical Board Staff". Presumably "Light" is a typo for "Flight".

Listed by name are four pilots, two Flight Engineers, a Phd in "Aviation Avionics". and a total of twenty seven Inspectors under Flight Operations, Air Worthiness, and Licensing.

There is no Accident Investigation branch listed, nor any indication that the Ministry has ever issued an accident report.

I could not get the "Organization" button at the bottom of the page to provide any information.

The page does have a "Contact Us" tab so on the basis that if you don't ask you will not be told, I optimistically sent them an email nearly two weeks ago asking them if they were planning to issue an accident repot. No response so far.

The web-site also has on it a "Roadmap" and an "Action Plan", both of which have many objectives including, "Establish an aircraft accident incident investigation process". The status is listed as, "On-going". The "Action Plan" notes that, "In order to meet the mandate of Article 26 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation, member nations must put in place appropriate legislation on aircraft accident investigation. The accident investigation authority will be required to determine the causes of an accident and to make safety recommendations. The responsibility for the implementation of safety recommendations will rest with the Civil Aviation Authority".

As of now it appears that the Ministry has the sole authority to report, but neither the means nor the intention to report, so that perhaps the best we can hope for is that the NTSB will provide a brief report for publication in Afghanistan, and that indirect information such as that from wrecker above and the concerns expressed by the FAA below will become available:
News: FAA concerned about potential safety impact of carrying and restraining heavy vehicle special cargo loads

QUESTIONS (the answers to which must be known to at least a few people).
(1) Did the markings and distribution of debris on the runway indicate a structural failure with a tail-strike, or without a strike?
(2) Was a radio call made, and if so, what exactly did it say?
(3) Is the report that there were 7 MRAPs on board correct, and if so, how was that achieved when opinion seems to be that 5 is a normal load and that 6 is "difficult"?
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